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Getting a Credit Card

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Another thing that is frustrating about the banking system here is that your US credit history means nothing in the UK. Even companies that appear to be the same (say, Capital One in the US and Capital One in the UK, or Experian credit agency) act as though you’re brand new and have never had a credit card.

And for all I know, you might be! This might be your first time applying for any sort of credit card, and so the process might not seem all that odd to you. But for someone like myself, who has been lucky enough to have over 20 years of good credit history in the US (I say lucky because yes, I manage my finances well but also, I’ve never had any unexpected medical expenses or other major financial hardships, and I’ve always been able to earn above a living wage), this is obnoxious.

My partner and I arrived hoping to start building our credit in the UK. We aren’t sure how long we’re going to live here, but who knows if we’ll ever find ourselves in a situation where it’s important that we have strong credit. I didn’t have a job for the first 11 months, so I looked into a bunch of starter credit cards, thinking well, I’m starting out in the UK, so these are perfect for me!

Wrong.

Most let me go through a check before actually applying so it wouldn’t hurt my (non-existent) credit, and I was not successful with any of them. The main issue seemed to be not my lack of UK-earned income, but my address history. Because we’ve only been in the UK a couple of months, these credit card companies would ask for my previous address, but would only allow for an address in the UK.

You see the dilemma here, yes? I don’t have credit because I’m new to the UK, I can’t build credit without a credit card, but I can’t get a credit card because I’m new to the UK.

With that in mind, my partner and I decided to try for a joint credit card from the bank where we have our current (checking) account. After 45 minutes in person (including about 15 minutes of the bank employee on the phone with the underwriters), we were successful in getting a joint credit card with a reasonable credit limit!

But.

Because the account is primarily my partner’s, I’m not allowed to view any statements or purchase history. I can MAKE purchases, but I can’t access anything via online banking. That’s kind of a problem, since I’m the one who manages our finances. We figured something out, but I find this to be a very frustrating situation. In the US the main joint credit card we use has my partner as the primary just because he signed up for it first, yet I can still sign in and view it any time I like.

Deep sigh.

Because I want to build my own credit, I asked about whether I could apply for a starter credit card in my own name. Nope. Because I didn’t have a job yet (and even if I did, it needed to pay at least £8,000 / year), I didn’t get access to credit on my own. Even if I had income from a US-based venture (say, consulting), because it’s dollars, it didn’t count.

The whole experience continues to be illogical and frustrating, but hey, at least we have a credit card now.

My advice to you is that the same day you open your joint account, ask if you can apply for a joint credit card as well. It’ll save you some time and get you on the way towards building some credit. And who knows, depending on your bank, see if they’ll issue you a very low limit personal credit card. They might have different rules than HSBC. In a couple of months, after you’ve shown that you’re making payments and that income is being deposited into the current account, make another appointment to see if you can get the limit increased.

And as soon as you get a job, apply for your own credit card!

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How to Open a Bank Account

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If you’ve followed my advice on getting a flat from a proper estate agent or council housing, your tenancy agreement should be sufficient proof of address for the banking system in the UK. However, again, before signing, look up your address on the Royal Mail postcode finder and make sure it matches EXACTLY.

Because all banks are different, I think it’s a good idea to have additional proofs of address:

  • If you are able to, change your US bank account address to your UK address and ask them to mail you a physical copy.
  • Whomever is working should get a letter from their employer that is from the HR head and includes the worker’s name, start date, job title, salary and, of course, address that matches the tenancy agreement and Royal Mail postcode finder address.

As soon as you have a tenancy agreement, call your chosen bank for an appointment. Hopefully whomever is working is going to be able to pop out for appointments in the beginning to set up your new life, so don’t worry about trying to find a weekend appointment if at all possible. Confirm exactly what you will want (joint current account — their word for checking account — credit cards, etc.) and exactly what they will require from you.

A couple of days after you get your account, your debit cards will arrive, then your pins. And then life will be a little bit easier.

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Finding a Flat

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As I mention in the Banking section, it will be loads easier to get a bank account if you have a lease with a known estate agent or management company and not with a private landlord, even if that landlord has many, many properties. I’m a very do-it-yourself kind of person, so I jumped onto sites like Zoopla and Open Rent and we ended up with a private landlord. We like our flat, but I wish we’d at least known the drawbacks of this arrangement.

In addition to researching online independently, Google “Letting Agents [city name  / neighborhood name]” to find ones that are in the neighborhood you want to live in. Book an appointment with them to show you flats, and be prepared to share what you’re looking for. Those Zoopla and Open Rent searches can come in handy here; the estate agent might have a connection to properties that interest you but even if not, the listings will help show them what you’re looking for.

Other things to keep in mind as you look for a flat:

  • What will your commute look like? Are you near multiple tube / rail / bus options?
  • Is the address on the tenancy agreement (what we call a lease in the US) the same as what shows up in the Royal Mail postcode finder? It needs to match perfectly, so get that sorted out right away.
  • Are the utilities already set up and can they be put in your name immediately to help with proof of address?
  • Is there a phone line so you can have internet installed?
  • What internet companies will service your address?
  • How far is the nearest large grocery store? How about the nearest local / express store?

The person doing the letting may ask for a letter from your new boss confirming you work there and what your income is. If you are not the one working, it can be helpful to have a reference from your previous boss. If you rented instead of owned your previous residence, see if you can get a general “this is a great tenant” letter from them as well.

Because you don’t have a credit history in the UK, some places might be more receptive if you are able and willing to provide more upfront than just the deposit and first month’s rent. We provided a six-week deposit and three months rent. I realize not everyone can do that, but we think it helped us considerably.

However, even if you have the money available, you’ll still need to be able to transfer it to a landlord or estate agent. We had to make three transfers: one for the application (which was applied to our deposit), one for the balance of the deposit, and one for the three months of rent. Rental rules have changed a bit since we arrived – landlords can only take three weeks for the deposit and cannot assess any application fees, so keep an eye on that.

If possible, at least for this first bit, I recommend opening a Monese account (you have to download the app; they don’t have a web presence). It’s based in the EU and you can even get an ATM/debit card. It’s what my husband and I are using for our personal accounts. We tried to transfer money to it before we moved (you can open the account while still in the US), but there was a mix-up with our credit union. If it had worked out, what we would have done is move as much money as possible to the Monese account (basically the amount we’d be willing to pay for a deposit and first one, two, or three months rent) so that we could much more easily move money over when we found out place.

In the end, we used Western Union for the application fee, TransferWise for the deposit, and a direct transfer from our credit union for the rent. Not great, and it probably ended up costing us so much more than if we could have done one giant transfer to Monese and then used that to transfer directly to the landlord.